Danny and Devin sit down with Brian O’Shea — computational astrophysicist and director of MSU’s Institute for Cyber-Enabled Research (ICER) — to talk about what it physically takes to run large-scale computing at a university: power, water, staff, and the things nobody budgets for. Then they turn the lens on the CSU–OpenAI deal from Episode 02 and ask the question that story never asks: what does $16.9 million actually buy, and what do you own when the contract ends?
Recorded: August 5, 2026